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	<title>Comments on: Is It Possible to Clone the SIM Card of Your GSM Phone?</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe Don Juan ever cloned a recent card.  For one thing, there is no such thing as a &quot;3G card.&quot;  There are V.1., V.2, and (I think) a V3.  As everyone here knows, &quot;3G&quot; is a data protocol.

The &quot;unlock code&quot; he refers to is just that, to open the phone to other carriers.  It has NOTHING to do with the SIM card. 

His crappy spelling and sentence structure doesn&#039;t make it any easier to figure out what he&#039;s saying, but the bottom line - hey, prove me wrong, I&#039;d love it! - is that no V.2 or later card has been cloned with ordinarily available tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe Don Juan ever cloned a recent card.  For one thing, there is no such thing as a &#8220;3G card.&#8221;  There are V.1., V.2, and (I think) a V3.  As everyone here knows, &#8220;3G&#8221; is a data protocol.</p>
<p>The &#8220;unlock code&#8221; he refers to is just that, to open the phone to other carriers.  It has NOTHING to do with the SIM card. </p>
<p>His crappy spelling and sentence structure doesn&#8217;t make it any easier to figure out what he&#8217;s saying, but the bottom line &#8211; hey, prove me wrong, I&#8217;d love it! &#8211; is that no V.2 or later card has been cloned with ordinarily available tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi EricRon,  hard to say.  The instructions sound good but the recommended software did not pass a virus scan.  Of course there is the outside chance that the scan was a false positive.  In my opinion, I don&#039;t believe the instructions work as I have to yet see anyone say they were successful.  If they do work, then it is only with a SIM v1 chip. My recommendation -- don&#039;t do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi EricRon,  hard to say.  The instructions sound good but the recommended software did not pass a virus scan.  Of course there is the outside chance that the scan was a false positive.  In my opinion, I don&#8217;t believe the instructions work as I have to yet see anyone say they were successful.  If they do work, then it is only with a SIM v1 chip. My recommendation &#8212; don&#8217;t do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry EricRon, I don&#039;t know of anyone that has successfully executed DonJuan&#039;s instructions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry EricRon, I don&#8217;t know of anyone that has successfully executed DonJuan&#8217;s instructions.</p>
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		<title>By: EricR</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret, do you know if anyone tried the method posted above by donjuan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret, do you know if anyone tried the method posted above by donjuan?</p>
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		<title>By: EricR</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret, is it your opinion that Donjuan was fabricating his instructions, and did not actually clone a card at all?  Did you try his method, following each instruction carefully?  He did give very specific instructions.  He was very pro-cloning, then he disappeared for a number of months, and reappeared saying he had served time.  It&#039;s possible he did indeed figure out how to clone V2 sim cards, and was using that knowledge in a less-than-honest manner.  I&#039;m just wondering if the instructions he posted were ever tried by you or anyone else.

In any case, this is one of the most interesting threads I&#039;ve stumbled upon in a long time, and it seems ever-lasting.  Bookmarked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret, is it your opinion that Donjuan was fabricating his instructions, and did not actually clone a card at all?  Did you try his method, following each instruction carefully?  He did give very specific instructions.  He was very pro-cloning, then he disappeared for a number of months, and reappeared saying he had served time.  It&#8217;s possible he did indeed figure out how to clone V2 sim cards, and was using that knowledge in a less-than-honest manner.  I&#8217;m just wondering if the instructions he posted were ever tried by you or anyone else.</p>
<p>In any case, this is one of the most interesting threads I&#8217;ve stumbled upon in a long time, and it seems ever-lasting.  Bookmarked.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simmer, sorry if I gave the wrong impression, but I don&#039;t work for a phone company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simmer, sorry if I gave the wrong impression, but I don&#8217;t work for a phone company.</p>
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		<title>By: simmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>simmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret
which phone co have you worked for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret<br />
which phone co have you worked for?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bret,

Thanks for posting this.  I have a similar problem with my GSM phone and an EDGE PCMCIA card where I have to take the SIM from the phone and put it into the card when I want to use the internet.  I was hoping to be able to clone the card but I guess it&#039;s not such a big deal to swap it out!  Thanks again.

Regards,

Colin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bret,</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this.  I have a similar problem with my GSM phone and an EDGE PCMCIA card where I have to take the SIM from the phone and put it into the card when I want to use the internet.  I was hoping to be able to clone the card but I guess it&#8217;s not such a big deal to swap it out!  Thanks again.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Colin.</p>
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		<title>By: echo</title>
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		<dc:creator>echo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in Saudi Arabia there is Mobile Operator STC.
they offer these options for small fee

CHECK

http://www.stc.com.sa/cws/portal/en/individual/ind-aljawal/ind-alj-discover/ind-alj-dis-3gservices/ind-alj-dis-3gsrv-3gmsim?favouritLang=en

AND

http://www.stc.com.sa/cws/portal/en/individual/ind-aljawal/ind-alj-discover/ind-alj-dis-3gservices/ind-alj-dis-3gserv-MultiNo?favouritLang=en



previously i was able to read the IMEI from the SIM card and insert it into blank SIM which can hold upto 9 lines
only one works at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in Saudi Arabia there is Mobile Operator STC.<br />
they offer these options for small fee</p>
<p>CHECK</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stc.com.sa/cws/portal/en/individual/ind-aljawal/ind-alj-discover/ind-alj-dis-3gservices/ind-alj-dis-3gsrv-3gmsim?favouritLang=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.stc.com.sa/cws/portal/en/individual/ind-aljawal/ind-alj-discover/ind-alj-dis-3gservices/ind-alj-dis-3gsrv-3gmsim?favouritLang=en</a></p>
<p>AND</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stc.com.sa/cws/portal/en/individual/ind-aljawal/ind-alj-discover/ind-alj-dis-3gservices/ind-alj-dis-3gserv-MultiNo?favouritLang=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.stc.com.sa/cws/portal/en/individual/ind-aljawal/ind-alj-discover/ind-alj-dis-3gservices/ind-alj-dis-3gserv-MultiNo?favouritLang=en</a></p>
<p>previously i was able to read the IMEI from the SIM card and insert it into blank SIM which can hold upto 9 lines<br />
only one works at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bret, 

I read all of the comments about cloning and the only person that seemed to know how to clone of V2 sims was &quot;Marek&quot;. He left his email, did u contact him? Any luck?

Donjaun said  &quot;I just god done serving a 15 month sentence for breaking the fcc cell phone....&quot;  doesn&#039;t make scene... his last post before jail is on September 26th, 2008 at 4:25 pm and after jail was on March 5th, 2009 at 4:20 am. From which I can conclude that he served 8month... or he had pc in Jail... or He did only 3month.. Still smells fishy and no one had success so far following his instructions.

V1 and V2 (3g) sims were mentioned a lot in the comments, the only thing I didnt understand is:

1) Is it possible to visually identify  the V1 and V2 sims? by looking to the number printed on sims?

What I have in my head is: If i could buy the V1 sim and ask the telco that i want my change my current phone (sim) to this sim1 and try to clone it... (I have a friend working with telco here... so hope he can do sim swap for me)

What is your opinion? Would it work?

I live in Sydney, Australia for 5 years now. Saiful says that in here telcos wants to know everything about u, with which I don&#039;t agree, cause you can buy PRE-PAID sims in major supermarket like you buy apples in fruit section.
However they do check ur ID if you are going for contract</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bret, </p>
<p>I read all of the comments about cloning and the only person that seemed to know how to clone of V2 sims was &#8220;Marek&#8221;. He left his email, did u contact him? Any luck?</p>
<p>Donjaun said  &#8220;I just god done serving a 15 month sentence for breaking the fcc cell phone&#8230;.&#8221;  doesn&#8217;t make scene&#8230; his last post before jail is on September 26th, 2008 at 4:25 pm and after jail was on March 5th, 2009 at 4:20 am. From which I can conclude that he served 8month&#8230; or he had pc in Jail&#8230; or He did only 3month.. Still smells fishy and no one had success so far following his instructions.</p>
<p>V1 and V2 (3g) sims were mentioned a lot in the comments, the only thing I didnt understand is:</p>
<p>1) Is it possible to visually identify  the V1 and V2 sims? by looking to the number printed on sims?</p>
<p>What I have in my head is: If i could buy the V1 sim and ask the telco that i want my change my current phone (sim) to this sim1 and try to clone it&#8230; (I have a friend working with telco here&#8230; so hope he can do sim swap for me)</p>
<p>What is your opinion? Would it work?</p>
<p>I live in Sydney, Australia for 5 years now. Saiful says that in here telcos wants to know everything about u, with which I don&#8217;t agree, cause you can buy PRE-PAID sims in major supermarket like you buy apples in fruit section.<br />
However they do check ur ID if you are going for contract</p>
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