How to Clone Your Cell Phone’s SIM Card (maybe)
Back in January of this year I wrote an article addressing the question of whether it was possible to clone a SIM card from a GSM cell phone. The article explained why such action wasn’t possible with a SIM card reader and basic software. Since that article, the reader comments have been consistently flowing in and the article remains one of my most frequently read items. Despite my explanation, some readers have claimed that they have succeeded at what I said was impossible. Unfortunately, when pressed for details, responses where either nonexistent or lacking critical details. Fortunately, all that changed on 9/26/2008 when reader DonJuan posted a detailed response that might just do what many of us want to do with our SIM cards.
SIM chip cloning instructions as explained by reader DonJuan
Without further delay, here is exactly how DonJuan successfully cloned his SIM chip:
- Buy simcard reader/writer.
- Buy blank 3g simcard
- Download Magicsim at http://www.magicsim.com/en/multi-sim.asp?new_id=6
- Download http://www.filecart.com/Windows/System-Utilities/Backup-Restore/USB-SIM-Card-Reader-Software_1711_1.html
- Install programs.
- Go in phone tools, select sim card, then select unlock sim, it will promt for a code.
Call AT&T, they will ask for your phone number, your account info, name and security code, then they will ask why you want to unlock your simcard, just tell them you need to unlock your sim to get it to work with your overseas phone or something. - Once they give you the sim unlock code, enter it, and it will say sim unlocked.
- Remove the sim from your phone, place it in the cardreader, click read from card in magic sim program.
- Once it says connected, select crack sim in the toolbar. click strong ki and clink all of the other find options and then click start.
- Once your ki is found and the crack is finished, click file, save as and save your cracked sim info to a dt file.
- IMPORTANT!!! you must click disconnect from the file menu or you will ruin your simcard. once it says disconnected, remove the sim. put it in your phone and see if it still works, it should. if not, you either did not unlock your sim, or you tried to copy it instead of crack and save.
- Insert black 3g card Use other program, not magic sim at this point.
- Click connect
- It will say no info found if it is truly blank.
- Select write to sim, it will promt you to select a dat file, select the one you saved before, now click start, it will take about 10 minutes to write it, once it is complete, it will ask for a security code, enter the security code AT&T gave you, then click finish.
- Your card is cloned. if you try to make 2 calls at the same time, one will go through, the other will say call failed, and both phones will get the same messages, text and voice, and both will recieve the same calls, but only one can talk at a time.
Caveats and warnings about cloning your SIM card
As of yet, I have NOT attempted to follow DonJuan’s instructions so I cannot confirm whether or not this process works. I did download both of the required applications in preparation for my future attempt. Therefore I should point out that I uploaded one of those applications to Virus Total to have it scanned for viruses. I was disappointed to see that F-Secure found one piece of questionable code in the Sim Card reader software listed in step 4. On the other hand F-Secure only represents 1 out of 36 scanners on Virus Total therefore it’s up to you to decide whether or not to install this application.
The MagicSim software unfortunately was too large for Virus Total so I have no idea whether this application is virus free or not. I recommend that if you decide to follow DonJuan’s instructions you do so on an extra computer (one you’re willing to infect with viruses if it comes to that) or install something like VMWare and install these applications in a virtual computer running inside of your current computer. This way, if these applications do have viruses, you can simply kill the infection by deleting the virtual computer.
All that being said, clone your SIM chip with this process at your own risk. As I already mentioned, I have NOT validated these instructions with my own test. I simply put them in a dedicated article on this site because I said I would do something like this if someone provided a detailed list of instructions. If you follow DonJuan’s instructions, and have success, please post a comment here and share your experience with the rest of the TechTraction readers.
Please Note: Keep in mind that blatant SPAM urls added to comments will be removed.
Share, Bookmark, or Email this post
|
|
If you liked this post, subscribe to TechTraction's RSS feed or TechTraction's email feed
Filed under: How-To & Tech Tips
The process to clone the cell phone is well explained and I did not understand the exact reason to clone the SIM card ?
It will be better if you can make the blog more descriptive.
oh many thanks for an infinitely valuable information… i also didn’t think this was possible, and thanks for the warning!
Hi Bret,
I like the article, but cant believe this without testing. I am searching all over internet, cant find any 3g blank simcard seller, could u point me to something..,
thank you..,
hope, one day u will also test this process, without the fear of virus.
Bret,
I have one more doubt,
what exactly is SIM unlock.
I have unlocked my blackjack phone with IMEI code, and used it with international sims outside USA.
San, sorry but I still haven’t tested this cloning process but I am in agreement with your doubts — it all seems to good to be true.
As for a 3G SIM reader — again, I am sorry but I have seen any such device.
Sorry I couldn’t be of more assistance. Nevertheless, thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.
take it easy..,
I think u will have a tap on this topic in various forms.. and update us with a more detailed post..,
Hi,
I followed the steps on the tutorial, and I couldn’t clone the sim card, I have an ATT sim card from an iPhone and bought 2 blank 3g simcards as well as a card reader and downloaded the software but so far, no success in reading the original sim card. There are few versions of the magic sim and so far all the ones I’ve found none of them work. I even paid 70 dls for a sim card reader software that was supposed to read deleted sms and last dial numbers and does not even achieve that, what a waste of money. The version of the sim cards I have attempted to read are probably version 3. The desing on the cards is different. So no success. So Don Juan claims to have successfully achieved the cloning, there has to be something else or his sim card is from a different version. My sim card has not been able to be properly read.
Okrax, thanks so much for documenting your experience here in the comment thread (sorry it took so long to approve the comment — problems with spam catcher).
Well folks, looks we have one confirmed “no success” experience with DonJuan’s suggested SIM card cloning approach. Anyone else care to share their expereince?
Thanks again Okrax.
Thank you so much fro the great advice and warning. I know that is very possible to happen. I did learned a lot today from your site. keep it up.
You have to unlock your sim first guys! that is the whole key about it! once you unlock the sim’s security, you can not only read the ki, you can re-write it. Part of the reason you might not be able to read it is because you tried to read it before without unlocking it first and it locked the sim. now im trying to clone tracfones sim cards, it is a cake walk, but you can only use it in the original phone so its pointless. Tmobile sim cards are hard to clone for some reason, they just dont work after you clone them for some reason.
I have a question for Don Juan…
You talk about unlocking the sim, but the process is a bit unclear to me. Do you refer to unlocking the sim with the sim code that is 4 digits or are you talking about the PUK code. Because I did that, and the software even asked me the unlocking code, entered and was successfull, but unable to read the ki, despite all the attempts. I’ve left the software running for over 10 hours and no ki has been found. Could it be the brand of the reader you are using? could it be the software version you are using? could it be the sim card you have?
Hi Guys, I’ve tried this with my AT&T sim, it just won’t be read by my sim reader. I can read much older sim cards no problem. I’m using the magicsim USB sim card reader and I get an error no matter what speed I try. (4800 baud, 9600, etc.). I also called AT&T regarding the SIM lock code, it’s just 1234, I tried it when the SIM is in my phone, it locks and un-locks the sim with that code… Anyone else have any success with sim cloning an AT&T sim?
I’m a bit of a “techie” so I understand everything you guys are writing on this subject, thanks!! What I want to know is if anyone has tried and successfully done a clone of a T-Mobile SIM Card… I own a T-Mobile smartphone and would like to be able to leave the bulky phone at home and carry a lighter one with me when I’m out and about without having to swap the SIM. Thanks for everything!!!
Some resources you folks might be interested in:
Sim card reader / writer: “http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKAD10″
This is a kit, but it has been able to read / write to every SIM I have tried. You might want to pick up a : “http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TTL232R”
This is a serial to USB converter cable. The sim kit has a header for it.
The software that you can download for this reader will allow you to backup and restore your address book and SMS messages. For cloning you will need some different software. I believe that the current generation of SIM cards can NOT be cloned because the weakness in the encryption function was fixed, therefore a brute force hack of the secret key is no longer possible.
There is a nice video that explains alot about SIM cards and even shows how to clone one at: “http://www.citizenengineer.com/”
Like I said though, I do not believe that it will work on the latest generation of SIM cards.
Hope this information proves usefull.
Thanks!
Hey, Bret did you test this DonJuan`s way to clone simcards ?
somethink else
What if my operator doesnt give me my sim lock ??
How can i find it ???
Does anyone test this way ????
Please !
Hi !
I have some questions :
1.Did anyone tested DonJuan`s way to clone SIM CARDS ?
2.What is a SIM Lock and what if my operator doesnt give SIM Lock to me ?
3.How much it will cost to me to buy products needed for cloning ?
4.I have a SIM CARD reader , can it be used like a writer to ?
Please answer to me as soon as possible .
Waiting for your help .
Thank You !
Sorry Argjend, I haven’t tried any of the suggestions yet. Limited free time for testing and no luck finding “virus free” version of the recommended cloning software.
Don Juan,
OK…….if your cloning method works…will you be able to listen to voice at the same time with the “clone phone” and “real phone” without the “real phone” knowing that you are listening in or vice-versa? Will the “clone phone” project sound during the call…like a 3 way phone call or will the microphone be muted if the “clone phone” is answered after the “real phone” has answered first?
Some one please tell me…I want to know before I try anything with my SIM.
Very Interesting topic
I to would like to clone my sim.
I currently have 2 phones an iPhone and an HTC Touch Pro.
While the iPhone is a great phone it lacks a lot of capabilities that Windows Mobile offers (like built in tethering support)
Although I have found a way to tether my iphone to my notebook (sharing my phones internet connection). I would like to use a more elegant method and since I am carrying both around anyway (just cant get away from windows mobile) I started my search for ways on cloning the SIM and came across this website.
Years back I looked into doing this ( right after the v1 swap ) and found that it was not possible “yet”.
At the time I even purchased all of the equipment available and found that it would read the contacts , sms messages and was even able to display other folders and files on the SIM. The ki was stored in a different portion of the card (not readable via any reader as it is hard coded into an unaccessable ROM)
The way I understand it the data request from the phone works like this
A typical smart card has three separate memory banks, two of which are ROMs (read only memory) and one is RAM (random access memory) – 8 kilobytes of RAM, 346 kilobytes of ROM and an additional programmable ROM with 256 kilobytes of memory, controlled through a 16-bit microprocessor.
1. The phone query’s Network to look up subscriber information based on IMEI and ESN numbers.
2. The network sends a authorization packet back to the phone so it can prove it is authorized for the known network account. (or checks if it is roaming in which case stores all information / keys to forward to original provider to request remuneration)
1. The phone then query’s the SIM with this request (stores request and data to be processed into RAM)
2. The SIM then passes this request to the embedded microprocessor (The microprocessor has its own built in algorithms for calculating data)
3. The microprocessor processes this information against the data stored in one of the ROM Banks. The one you can not read with a card reader. (second cipher?)
4. Then calculates the decrypted data against the second ROM (where your number is stored and data is readable)
5. It then sends this data back to the phone which then sends the data back to the network to verify.
6. If the network verifies everything is correct. Sends provider information to the phone ( Network ID, Signal strength, etc…)and a new key to authorize the SIM. It is now when data decryption takes place.
7. The process starts off all over again at intervals specified in your phones settings.
This all happens in a mater of nanoseconds.
The only way you can clone a SIM card is if you could read both sets of ROM (current readers can only access one) and the calculating algorithms stored inside the microprocessor. Currently this is not possible to read the second ROM nor is the microprocessor architecture known.
What older V1 SIM’s allowed was multiple BAD requests be sent to the microprocessor. thus enabling the SIM itself to decrypt the ki from one of the ROM banks. (the one not readable by card readers.) via a brute force method. (sending multiple random requests until it got a good answer and using that “key” to dump the ki)
In newer SIM’s the microprocessor will shut itself off after so many simultaneous BAD requests. Therefore shutting down all access to the card. (e.g. the need to get another from the provider)
I do not believe there is a way to shut off this kill switch and here is why.
Disabling this protection would be suicide for smart card manufactures. The same technology is used for bank cards, satellite systems, military security and numerous other securities.
If anyone were to divulge this information they would have to reinvent billions upon billions worth of new technologies including; hardware, software, smart cards, people etc…
There is however the possibility of circumventing the protection (as seen in the satellite industry in the past)
The satellite smart card was never “hacked” like some are led to believe. The code in one of the ROM banks was used to pass keys from the receiver to the microprocessor before account activation was verified. Since no one (not even the satellite company or the hackers) had access to the second ROM bank data was re pushed to the first ROM bank to change how the information was passed to the microprocessor. Thereby thwarting the hackers attempts to get free TV. There has since been several safeguards to prevent this form of piracy from happening again. If you search Google for “Black Friday” you can see how one of thoes attempts went. Ultimately the security on the current cards (same design as V1 SIM cards) had been so easily circumvented that the satellite company was forced to do a “card swap”.
The satellite industry swapped out all of the smart cards to every paid customer with Smart Cards that have much stronger security. This card has yet to be “hacked” and still the satellite industry continues to build more secure cards and swapping them out periodically as a preventive measure.
How many SIM card “swaps” have there been since the V1′s vulnerability? Granted most of these swaps were due to new technologies but surly they took the time to beef up security while they were at it.
If a method to clone a SIM card exists it would have to be done on a card with an identical microprocessor (one from same provider), the KI stored into the first ROM bank (if there is room), and the check for ki re-routed from the second ROM bank to the new location on the first ROM.
Don’t get me wrong it can be done it just is not an easy task. I was kind of hoping that someone had done it already. e.g. me at this forum.
But alas it has not been done and I haven’t the energy to put to the task. Just no real incentive.
I don’t think it would work all that well if we did clone a sim as the network will only allow the first phone that registered itself to stay active on the network. the other phone would simply be rejected. (unless connected to a different tower / network) or one phone would have to be turned off for the other to work. This may not be the case with data networks as they do operate differently and on other frequencies simultaneously (on the same phone)
In short unless someone posts a “How to clone a SIM to one identical to original provider without querying the microprocessor”. Well, it cant be done.
Sorry for such a long post I just wanted you all to know how difficult this would be.
Thanks much Cyberdemon. No apology needed for the long post as it was very complete and addressed all the complexities of cloning a SIM chip. In my opinion, your response further validates my original position on this topic: It is possible to a clone a SIM chip, but it is extremely difficult and cannot be done by downloading a couple of free SIM cloning applications and a SIM card reader. The process is far more complex than that. Thanks much and I plan to convert your comment into a new post for next week to further raise awareness to the complexities involved.
I see various people asking–why clone a sim card? I can think of a very good reason to do so, which I’ll explain. What I would like to find out is–have others tried this? Does it work?
Reason I would be interested–say you have two phones, with different features. Let’s say one is a PDA phone, but rather bulky and large, the other is a very small thin simple phone, for instance a RAZR. You would like to be able to easily switch between the two phones. Now you have to power off both phones, remove the back, remove the battery, to switch the sim card from one phone to another. It sure would be simpler, if you could have a working SIM in each phone.
Or–you might have one of the laptop built-in or PCMCIA cards, that connect to the Internet with your cell service. That requires a SIM from your carrier. Again, a hassle to switch the SIM back and forth between phone and laptop.
Of course, the purpose of having two of the same SIM IS NOT to use two phones at the same time on the same line, as if they were two separate lines. If you try that, your account will be disconnected fast. That would not work!
From what I have read, in Europe you can buy a second SIM from the carrier, on the same line, for a small one time nominal fee. On T-Mobile Europe for example. But here in the States no carrier allows that. They should, IMO.
So, the only way to do that in the states would be an illegal way, like described here. There should be a legal way to get an extra SIM for the same line from your carrier IMO, but there is not.
Once again–I’d like to know how many here have actually tried this, whether it works for you, whether there have been any problems, whether there are viruses in the software, etc.
In reply to M. San–
I suggest you read the other posts. I think it is very clear, that NO, cloning a SIM card would not allow you to listen in on other’s conversations. If you tried that, your cell account would be promptly closed. Both SIMs cannot be used at the same time.
The reason one would want to clone, is to be able to switch between devices, without bothering to switch the SIM card back and forth. That would be a nice convenience.
Besides being impossible, what you are requesting is not only illegal, but highly unethical. If I found out that you were listening in to my conversations, I would sue your ass off! (Actually, I assume your purpose would be to listen in to a family member’s conversations–to sneak out their SIM card and clone it, to try to listen in on them. Well, if I was your wife, and found out you were doing that, I would not only divorce you, but sue your ass off as well!)
Anyhow, that is definitely impossible, so forget about it.
(I’m still not sure, from reading here, if cloning works at all, especially with my carrier, T-Mobile USA. It certainly would be a nice option though, if one has multiple phone and wireless internet devices.)
In looking at other Google hits on the topic, I came across one page that sells the sim-cloning devices, http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-BACKUP, in which I saw the following comment:
“NOTE:If you try to read a SIM card bought since June 2002 you may not be able to do it, because phone operator companies are changing the algorhythm for the implementation of KI and IMSI encryptation. ”
I saw this info other places as well. Namely, that since June 2002 (V2 and later 3G SIM cards) have much better encryption, and are uncrackable. It is stated that sim-cloning only works (sometimes) with v1 sim cards, before June 2002.
So–if anyone has any old blank SIM cards for your carrier lying around (or you might be able to find them on Ebay), make up an excuse to have your carrier transfer your line from your present card (you can say you have been having problems with it, and you just happen to have a spare SIM). Once your line is transferred to the v1 SIM card, try the SIM clone procedure. (One can find complete kits to do it, including the blank sims, card reader, and software, for just a few dollars on Ebay.) (Most don’t warn you of the problem with current SIM cards though.) (I guess they figure, costing just a few bucks, that people won’t be too put out if it doesn’t work, and won’t bother asking for a refund.)
My guess is, that perhaps DonJuan had an older SIM card, v1.
(Is there any way to tell from the number on the SIM card, what version it is, when it was made, etc.?)
Anyone here willing to be the guinea pig, to try this first?
I sure wish that carriers here, like in Europe, would legally provide a duplicate SIM to their users, so that they can use more devices without switching cards. (With the clear stipulation, that the two devices cannot be used at the same time–and that if someone tries that, their account would be close.) There should be nothing illegal about that–for a user to want to have multiple copies of his SIM in different devices he uses, without having to switch the card back and forth. If that were done, it would bring in more money for the carriers–besides perhaps charging something for the duplicate SIM card, they would sell a lot more phones. People would more likely want multiple devices, if there wasn’t the hassle of switching the card back and forth. (Of course, users would still be eligible for only one subsidized phone per contract renewal. So the extra devices would have to be bought at full price, which the carriers would make money from.) That surely would be the best solution, if anyone could convince US carriers to provide that option. (Or–is it illegal in the US due to a federal law. If so, perhaps we should contact our congressman, FCC, etc., and suggest changing that law.)
Mike, thanks for adding to discussion with your recent comments. I too want to clone a SIM chip for the exact same reasons you do: one for a very portable everyday phone, and one for my Blackberry. Cloning for this purpose would be an excellent feature that cell provides could add to attract more customers; however, I understand (but not entirely agree with) their reasons for not allowing this feature. I, however, would be very happy if they at least allowed for the separate of services between devices. For example, I’d be perfectly happy if my phone service was on one chip and my unlimited data on another chip. I don’t always need my Blackberry for email etc, but I always need my cell phone. I’ve asked if they would split the service and they said they could not. I know that splitting the service would mean I’d have to carry two devices but for my needs I’m willing to do that. I know that two devices is not a reasonable solution for everyone but at least it would give those of us that swap between phone and PDA device an option and still allow the cell providers to avoid multiple phones on the same SIM. If you think about it, the providers already split the service by allowing you to get a phone and get a data card for your laptop. To get the data card for a laptop you don’t have to sign up for another phone line. I think you get my point.
All that being said, to answer Mike’s question regarding has anyone tried this — my answer is no. I believe I mentioned in the above post that the suggested cloning software had a virus which was discovered by the online service virustotal.com. Therefore my investigation into DonJuans method ended there. I was going to try the process on an extra computer and risk the virus, but I simply don’t have time and based on the comment from CyberDemon (soon to be converted into an article here) I’m convinced that cloning a SIM chip above V1 is simply not possible with an inexpensive copy machine and simple software.
In short, cloning a SIM chip above v1 with inexpensive and simple tools is basically impossible. Cyberdemon gave an excellent explanation about why it is so impossible and I would add to that explanation the basic lack of information on this topic. Basically, if cloning a SIM chip above v1 was as easy as getting a SIM card duplicator and some free software, then lots of people would be doing it and the process clearly documented and easy to find on the web. Think about it, if you want to jailbreak an iPhone, that information is easily accessible. Similar information for cloning a SIM chip is simply not as easily accessible and therefore I would conclude that it simply cannot be done. Nevertheless I love the continued discussion on the topic and hopefully if a solution is one day found it will appear here on my site.
Thanks for the comments Mike and others.
My head is spinning, as it seems it cannot be done and than again maybe it can. I have two phones, a beater that I take to work and a 3g i-phone that I use other times. Switching the sim card is a pain in the a..
I will keep an eye on this site for any updated info
Thanks for all the info
Confusing, I know. Sorry about the off, on, and the off position on cloning. I should have stuck with my original post and been done with it; however, like you, I want to end the hassle of chip swapping so bad that I was willing to try just about anything. DonJuan’s approach looked so promising. He provided decent instructions and links to all necessary software. But alas, as the saying goes, “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.”
Sorry for the confusion Chris, but thanks for the comment.
[...] I’m sure I’ll get readers asking me how to clone a cell phone, so I searched around and found an excellent blog post on how to clone a AT&T cell phone in only 16 steps. If you want to read the entire blog post, which gives a lot more detail, head on over to TechTraction. [...]
Well, there seems to be a consensus that it IS possible to do, sometimes at least, with V1 SIM cards, most likely not with v2 or v3 cards.
The magicsim software mentioned by DonJuan is not the only app to do this–the kits you buy on Ebay come with software–I think there are different apps available. And of course, virus scanners these days come out with a LOT of false positives–so the fact that some virus scanners (others not) said that magicsim has a virus, doesn’t mean that it has one. (Especially software like that, trying to crack something, is likely to be reported as a virus or trojan, even if it isn’t at all.)
So, the question is–how can one know what version SIM card one has? Any way to tell by the numbers on the card?
And–does anyone know of a source for T-Mobile v1 SIM cards
ive read this all of it top to bottom and from what it seems is it cannot be done for the saimple fact that ppl wiil abuse it it in way to cheat the cell phone componies and the way america has always been they like to take and never give i.e in europe there have to trust issues w/ their citizens as for america they dont belive in trust only what they can get out of it but back to the sims t-mobile has always had different sim cards that any other i guess they found out about the flaw
and as for att its always easy to crack hack their stuff i just hacked 2 iphones in a day and had them working on tmobile but sim cloning its a nice way to switch phone seemlessly but come on how long dose it really take (10 sec.) but what i would like is to really know if i can listen in on a convo that is the only reasson i would like to do i have lil kids that i would like to keep an eye on or a ear !! to keep them safe but please get back with some answers i would really like to know if it is possible
thank you and sorry for the rant but i felt like it had to be said ….
I too have the issue of not wanting to take my iPhone to work so would like to be able to use two sims.
I had a thought though and wondered if this would work:
Could I ring up Vodafone (my network) and say that my kid chewed on my SIM card when I left it on my table and its not working properly and could they send me out another one? I seem to remember doing this years ago when I accidently scratched my SIM and they were only too happy to send one.
My question is this:
Would Vodafone automatically cancel the old SIM card from working?
Regarding cloning of SIM Card:
Its a well known fact that the GSM architechture does NOT ALLOW for more than 1 SIM with the same data at any given time. The network will determine the physical location of the two SIMs, and see that they are in 2 different locations. Then it will normally shut down connection for them both. This is a built in countermeasure to thwart stealing air time from the network. The GSM in Europe (I can confirm Norway) can be a socalled twin subscription, giving 2 SIMs with same tel number (one phone with you, and one in your car) However, ONLY one can be used at at time, NOT both.
So this is totally waste of brains, energy, money.
If you want to monitor somebodys phone, there are 2 options: Software installing, like Neo-Call or Flexispy. You need to have the targets phone in your hand, either in standby (pincode unlocked) or know the pincode so you can unlock the phone (bring it to standby mode). After installing the software, you can secretly listen to the targets phonecalls (duplex) and read SMS. Totally covert. Not expensive.
Alternative 2: A GSM off air intercept system. I have been selling these since year 2000. Yes they are real, and work extremely well. But expensive, from 450 -650 K Euros. We are developing a totally new technology now. Hopefully ready coming summer at a price of 150 K Euros. Still not cheap, but better !
How about some other ways of getting a second (duplicate) SIM card? For example: are there any circumstances in the US that either AT&T or T-Mobile will provide you a second SIM card? Maybe for additional fee? How about if your original SIM card was damaged? Any other thoughts?
Reuven
Donny Juan is full of s**t. The MagicSim downloads have trojans. I have exhausted all possible techniques/baud rates and used various readers. The said software won’t work with modern SIM cards period.
When is the Ki created? Are blank/new SIM cards identical until used for the first time? Would it be possible to connect two new SIM cards to a handset (through some cable/adapter contraption) and have them end up activated and identical/clones of each other?
I want to clone a SIM phone so I can make calls from a Motorola (this old M works MUCH better for me and I use an old speaker in my car!) and stop constant switching out with my iPhone. Switching out is a PITA. I can imagine it could be a problem remembering if I have the other one turned off.
IMO Bluetooth sucks in the car!
I am inteested in the 1st option posted by kris the Neo-call or Flexispy..Will this really work?You mean we have to install this program to the target phone?Installing this program wireless or via cables using pc?More info on this pls..
Can anyone tell me if using the original SIM and the clone SIM at the same time, will one phone go through while the other will say call failed as mentioned by Don Juan or both phone calls be disconnected immediately? Thanks.
Hello, I’m from India.
Just last year I saw on the news that someone who worked in a used cellphone store cloned SIM cards and sold them to people who were gonna use it to make thousands of dollars worth of phone calls and throw the SIM card away. Sure, that was very stupid of him since he was basically asking for trouble.
They showed it on the news channels but they didn’t provide the specifics about how he did it, i.e. whether he cloned it from an existing SIM or whether he captured/intercepted phone signals from nearby cellphone users on an active call.
I don’t know what version of SIM cards we have here but I’d assume we have the insecure old version cards here since we’re way behind in technology (contrary to what people claim).
[...] with the AT&T folks, even though it doesn't cost you anything or look at getting a new phone. TechTraction How to Clone Your Cell Phone’s SIM Card (maybe) Larry __________________ Larry: Forum Administrator (Frank's [...]