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		<title>By: Is it possible to 'clone' the simi card in a cell phone? - The North American Fly Fishing Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.techtraction.com/2008/10/01/how-to-clone-your-cell-phones-sim-card-maybe/comment-page-1/#comment-5284</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it possible to 'clone' the simi card in a cell phone? - The North American Fly Fishing Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with the AT&amp;T folks, even though it doesn&#039;t cost you anything or look at getting a new phone. TechTraction How to Clone Your Cell Phone&#8217;s SIM Card (maybe)  Larry     __________________   Larry: Forum Administrator (Frank&#039;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with the AT&amp;T folks, even though it doesn&#039;t cost you anything or look at getting a new phone. TechTraction How to Clone Your Cell Phone&#8217;s SIM Card (maybe)  Larry     __________________   Larry: Forum Administrator (Frank&#039;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
		<link>http://www.techtraction.com/2008/10/01/how-to-clone-your-cell-phones-sim-card-maybe/comment-page-1/#comment-5137</link>
		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I&#039;m from India.

Just last year I saw on the news that someone who worked in a used cellphone store cloned SIM cards and sold them to people who were gonna use it to make thousands of dollars worth of phone calls and throw the SIM card away. Sure, that was very stupid of him since he was basically asking for trouble.

They showed it on the news channels but they didn&#039;t provide the specifics about how he did it, i.e. whether he cloned it from an existing SIM or whether he captured/intercepted phone signals from nearby cellphone users on an active call.

I don&#039;t know what version of SIM cards we have here but I&#039;d assume we have the insecure old version cards here since we&#039;re way behind in technology (contrary to what people claim).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I&#8217;m from India.</p>
<p>Just last year I saw on the news that someone who worked in a used cellphone store cloned SIM cards and sold them to people who were gonna use it to make thousands of dollars worth of phone calls and throw the SIM card away. Sure, that was very stupid of him since he was basically asking for trouble.</p>
<p>They showed it on the news channels but they didn&#8217;t provide the specifics about how he did it, i.e. whether he cloned it from an existing SIM or whether he captured/intercepted phone signals from nearby cellphone users on an active call.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what version of SIM cards we have here but I&#8217;d assume we have the insecure old version cards here since we&#8217;re way behind in technology (contrary to what people claim).</p>
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		<title>By: GY</title>
		<link>http://www.techtraction.com/2008/10/01/how-to-clone-your-cell-phones-sim-card-maybe/comment-page-1/#comment-5122</link>
		<dc:creator>GY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone tell me if using the original SIM and the clone SIM at the same time, will one phone go through while the other will say call failed as mentioned by Don Juan or both phone calls be disconnected immediately? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me if using the original SIM and the clone SIM at the same time, will one phone go through while the other will say call failed as mentioned by Don Juan or both phone calls be disconnected immediately? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: rentangz</title>
		<link>http://www.techtraction.com/2008/10/01/how-to-clone-your-cell-phones-sim-card-maybe/comment-page-1/#comment-5067</link>
		<dc:creator>rentangz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am inteested in the 1st option posted by kris the Neo-call or Flexispy..Will this really work?You mean we have to install this program to the  target phone?Installing this program wireless or via cables using pc?More info on this pls..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am inteested in the 1st option posted by kris the Neo-call or Flexispy..Will this really work?You mean we have to install this program to the  target phone?Installing this program wireless or via cables using pc?More info on this pls..</p>
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		<title>By: farquahar</title>
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		<dc:creator>farquahar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to clone a SIM phone so I can make calls from a Motorola (this old M works MUCH better for me and I use an old speaker in my car!) and stop constant switching out with my iPhone.  Switching out is a PITA.  I can imagine it could be a problem remembering if I have the other one turned off.

IMO Bluetooth sucks in the car!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to clone a SIM phone so I can make calls from a Motorola (this old M works MUCH better for me and I use an old speaker in my car!) and stop constant switching out with my iPhone.  Switching out is a PITA.  I can imagine it could be a problem remembering if I have the other one turned off.</p>
<p>IMO Bluetooth sucks in the car!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex V</title>
		<link>http://www.techtraction.com/2008/10/01/how-to-clone-your-cell-phones-sim-card-maybe/comment-page-1/#comment-4932</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the Ki created?  Are blank/new SIM cards identical until used for the first time?  Would it be possible to connect two new SIM cards to a handset (through some cable/adapter contraption) and have them end up activated and identical/clones of each other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is the Ki created?  Are blank/new SIM cards identical until used for the first time?  Would it be possible to connect two new SIM cards to a handset (through some cable/adapter contraption) and have them end up activated and identical/clones of each other?</p>
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		<title>By: Post-Op-Tranny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Post-Op-Tranny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donny Juan is full of s**t. The MagicSim downloads have trojans. I have exhausted all possible techniques/baud rates and used various readers. The said software won&#039;t work with modern SIM cards period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donny Juan is full of s**t. The MagicSim downloads have trojans. I have exhausted all possible techniques/baud rates and used various readers. The said software won&#8217;t work with modern SIM cards period.</p>
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		<title>By: Reuven</title>
		<link>http://www.techtraction.com/2008/10/01/how-to-clone-your-cell-phones-sim-card-maybe/comment-page-1/#comment-4879</link>
		<dc:creator>Reuven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about some other ways of getting a second (duplicate) SIM card? For example: are there any circumstances in the US that either AT&amp;T or T-Mobile will provide you a second SIM card? Maybe for additional fee? How about if your original SIM card was damaged? Any other thoughts?

Reuven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about some other ways of getting a second (duplicate) SIM card? For example: are there any circumstances in the US that either AT&amp;T or T-Mobile will provide you a second SIM card? Maybe for additional fee? How about if your original SIM card was damaged? Any other thoughts?</p>
<p>Reuven</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding cloning of SIM Card:
Its a well known fact that the GSM architechture does NOT ALLOW for more than 1 SIM with the same data at any given time. The network will determine the physical location of the two SIMs, and see that they are in 2 different locations. Then it will normally shut down connection for them both. This is a built in countermeasure to thwart stealing air time from the network. The GSM in Europe (I can confirm Norway) can be a socalled twin subscription, giving 2 SIMs with same tel number (one phone with you, and one in your car) However, ONLY one can be used at at time, NOT both. 
So this is totally waste of brains, energy, money.
If you want to monitor somebodys phone, there are 2 options: Software installing, like Neo-Call or Flexispy. You need to have the targets phone in your hand, either in standby (pincode unlocked) or know the pincode so you can unlock the phone (bring it to standby mode). After installing the software, you can secretly listen to the targets phonecalls (duplex) and read SMS. Totally covert. Not expensive.
Alternative 2: A GSM off air intercept system. I have been selling these since year 2000. Yes they are real, and work extremely well. But expensive, from 450 -650 K Euros. We are developing a totally new technology now. Hopefully ready coming summer at a price of 150 K Euros. Still not cheap, but better !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding cloning of SIM Card:<br />
Its a well known fact that the GSM architechture does NOT ALLOW for more than 1 SIM with the same data at any given time. The network will determine the physical location of the two SIMs, and see that they are in 2 different locations. Then it will normally shut down connection for them both. This is a built in countermeasure to thwart stealing air time from the network. The GSM in Europe (I can confirm Norway) can be a socalled twin subscription, giving 2 SIMs with same tel number (one phone with you, and one in your car) However, ONLY one can be used at at time, NOT both.<br />
So this is totally waste of brains, energy, money.<br />
If you want to monitor somebodys phone, there are 2 options: Software installing, like Neo-Call or Flexispy. You need to have the targets phone in your hand, either in standby (pincode unlocked) or know the pincode so you can unlock the phone (bring it to standby mode). After installing the software, you can secretly listen to the targets phonecalls (duplex) and read SMS. Totally covert. Not expensive.<br />
Alternative 2: A GSM off air intercept system. I have been selling these since year 2000. Yes they are real, and work extremely well. But expensive, from 450 -650 K Euros. We are developing a totally new technology now. Hopefully ready coming summer at a price of 150 K Euros. Still not cheap, but better !</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have the issue of not wanting to take my iPhone to work so would like to be able to use two sims.

I had a thought though and wondered if this would work:

Could I ring up Vodafone (my network) and say that my kid chewed on my SIM card when I left it on my table and its not working properly and could they send me out another one?  I seem to remember doing this years ago when I accidently scratched my SIM and they were only too happy to send one.  
My question is this:
Would Vodafone automatically cancel the old SIM card from working?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have the issue of not wanting to take my iPhone to work so would like to be able to use two sims.</p>
<p>I had a thought though and wondered if this would work:</p>
<p>Could I ring up Vodafone (my network) and say that my kid chewed on my SIM card when I left it on my table and its not working properly and could they send me out another one?  I seem to remember doing this years ago when I accidently scratched my SIM and they were only too happy to send one.<br />
My question is this:<br />
Would Vodafone automatically cancel the old SIM card from working?</p>
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